hi guys,.
have a listen to this short story and if you're so inclined, say what line or lines of this story resonated with you in regard to your jw experience.. i linked this story 3 ways in hopes one of them will work for you.. thanks !
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Wow...The line that struck me was her feelings once she decided to leave her church and to quit selling Mary Kay Cosmetics.
"It really cost me....I lost my identity....I lost my belonging....I lost the ability to ever be that certain or righteous about anything ever again"
I'm going to memorize that line and take it as my own because it describes exactly how it is for me now.
a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.
break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.
the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.
I remember the 15 minute break after the public talk. At our Hall they said it was done so they could set up the microphones.
Then there was the urban ledgend where the Chairman got up after the talk and thanked the speaker for his very fine discourse and continued, saying that before the Watchtower study began, there would be a 15 minute intercourse while the microphones were being set up. LOL
it's big business laundering money through construction and improvements of a kingdom hall.
it's steady cash flow laundering money to maintain a kingdom hall.
donated labor from members is icing on the cake.
It's big business laundering money through construction and improvements of a Kingdom Hall. It's steady cash flow laundering money to maintain a Kingdom Hall.
This is a new concept to me. Can you explain how it works and what proof there is that it happens?
it has been a long time.. thanks to jw.org, i was reading some jw material (what does the bible teach i believe).
it was the first time reading a "book study" book in many years and i was blown away by the controlling, cultish writing.
this question especially struck me as manipulative: do you believe that we are living in the last days, and why?.
Things have got to get a lot worse....before they get worse.
anybody remember hearing this?.
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is that comment in print anywhere?.
Check out some of these posts from the past on this topic.
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
It seems we're all in this alone....together.
from a jw site.. .. a nice little corner for the young ones at the central america bethel branch in mexico.. .. .. .
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In New York they have this similar set up only you can stand among the cartoon characters holding a bookbag and get your picture taken going out in service with Caleb. I notice more and more they are showing the brothers wearing only a shirt and tie without a sport coat. I wonder if they're trying to relax the dress code a little. It used to be oh so important not to do anything WT related without wearing at least a sport jacket and tie.
i believe that most witnesses would refuse blood to show their faithfulness to jehovah's law on blood transfusions....( that sounds silly, huh?).
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I would have probably refused it for myself but when it came down to it, I would have caved if it meant life or death for one of my kids. I figured I'd take the fall for my child and that Jehovah would probably have mercy on a parent put in that position.
i need some research done so if anybody has the time, please see what you can find on the subject as stated in the title.. i clearly remember attending my first circuit assembly.
on october 30, 1956, i definitely answered two questions, along with about ten other people including my mother, not at the assembly, but we were standing at the side of a small baptismal pool that was in the basement of a kingdom hall in ronkonkoma, then a small hamlet on long island in the town of islip, suffolk county, new york, united states.. i know for a certainty that in 1945 candidates for baptism were not asked any questions but they were informed through their congregation that there would be a baptism and told where and when it was to be held.
usually the baptism was done at a beach and when candidates showed up in bathing attire, they were dunked, no questions asked.. so sometime between 1945 and 1956 two specific questions began to be asked of candidates.
Baptismal questions from the May 1, 1973 Watchtower, p. 280:
(1) Have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?
Thanks people.....sounds like I can still live up to my dedication to God without specifically having to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I walked away a few years ago and have had people indicate that I have turned my back on Jehovah or that I was reneging on my promise to him. It's nice to be able to quote these open ended questions now and prove that isn't the case. (no wonder they changed question #2....they needed to close that little loophole)
Pete, (love your last name) They may have changed the word God to Jehovah. I don't remember but until the big change in the 80's the vows were pretty much the same.
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i need some research done so if anybody has the time, please see what you can find on the subject as stated in the title.. i clearly remember attending my first circuit assembly.
on october 30, 1956, i definitely answered two questions, along with about ten other people including my mother, not at the assembly, but we were standing at the side of a small baptismal pool that was in the basement of a kingdom hall in ronkonkoma, then a small hamlet on long island in the town of islip, suffolk county, new york, united states.. i know for a certainty that in 1945 candidates for baptism were not asked any questions but they were informed through their congregation that there would be a baptism and told where and when it was to be held.
usually the baptism was done at a beach and when candidates showed up in bathing attire, they were dunked, no questions asked.. so sometime between 1945 and 1956 two specific questions began to be asked of candidates.
Does anyone know what the questions would have been in 1974 when as a kid, I was frightened encouraged into saying "yes" to, just before they dunked me?
Seems like a good idea for me to know what they were, all those years ago.
